New York Times Columnists Gail Collins and Bret Stephens Talk About the EPA, Biden, Trump, and the Supreme Court

From a oonversation between New York Times columnists Gail Collins and Bret Stephens headlined “It’s July 4, 2022, and Somehow We Are Still Talking About Trump”:

Gail Collins: Happy Independence Day, Bret! Want to celebrate by talking about the Supreme Court?

Bret Stephens: I was sorta thinking of a cookout on the patio with a nice bottle of rosé, but fire away.

Gail: We were in such accord, gnashing our teeth over the decisions on abortion and guns. How about their deep-sixing environmental regulation? You still gnashing with me?

From a Conversation Between New York Times Columnists Gail Collins and Bret Stephens headlined “Mike Pence Was of Two Minds”

From a New York Times conversation between Gail Collins and Bret Stephens headlined “Mike Pence Was of Two Minds”:

Gail Collins: Bret, I never did like Mike Pence at all — his far-right social values would have turned me off even if he didn’t call his wife “Mother.

And I’ve never forgotten the moment when Lesley Stahl of “60 Minutes” asked Pence if he ever thought he’d be able to tell Donald Trump he needed to apologize for having “crossed the line.” Pence just kinda babbled without answering until Trump interrupted. “Absolutely. I might not apologize,” Trump said. “But I would absolutely want him to come in.”