New York Times Columnists Gail Collins and Bret Stephens Talk About Kevin McCarthy and the Republican Party

From a conversation between New York Times columnists Gail Collins and Bret Stephens headlined “Speaker, Speaker, What Do You See? I See MAGA Looking at Me.”

Bret Stephens: Gail, remember “We Need To Talk About Kevin,” the unforgettable Lionel Shriver novel about a woman whose son murders his classmates? Maybe someone should write the sequel: “We Need To Talk About What They Did to Kevin.”

Gail Collins: A book-length disquisition on Kevin McCarthy, Bret? Always thought his strongest suit was that he was too boring to hate. But now that he’s apparently promised the Republican right wing everything but permission to bring pet ocelots to the House floor, I can see it.