Gail Collins and Bret Stephens: Washington Is Getting Extra Serious and Extra Silly

From the weekly conversation between New York Times columnists Gail Collins and Bret Stephens:

Bret Stephens: Hi, Gail. I think many Americans would give President Biden reasonably high marks for his handling of the war in Ukraine so far. His speech in Poland, in which he said, “For God’s sake, this man cannot remain in power,” may have been provocative, and it might have his advisers scrambling to soften it, but it was right, and the right message to send about what should become of Vladimir Putin’s foul regime.