New York Times Columnists Gail Collins and Bret Stephens Talk About What Might Make Trump Go Away

From a conversation between New York Times columnists Gail Collins and Bret Stephens headlined “Is There Anything That Will Make the ‘Former Guy’ Go Away?”:

Bret Stephens: Hi, Gail. I know I speak for us both when I say that our thoughts are with everyone who was in the path of Hurricane Ian. In the meantime, mind if I run a possibly crazy idea by you?

Gail Collins: Bret, there is nothing I would love more.

Bret: A friend of mine, not at all conservative, thinks that Joe Biden would be smart to pardon Donald Trump for taking all those documents to Mar-a-Lago. Insane?